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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

Counsellor
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Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

Hi!

 

For about two weeks now I use my Booklet  3G and think it is over all a fine machine. But ... it is really slow, I think in the main part due to the HDD. So I want to change the HDD to a SSD.

 

Does anyone know how to open the Booklet? I didn't find anything until now ...

 

Cheerio 

Chris 

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ceroberts75
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

the base of the unit is all one piece.

 

 

the only way to get to the compartment where the mother board is is too go through the kb.

 

 

the kb pops out and then there are a few screws and once those are out, you will see the 1-piece motherboard with everything on it.

 

all components are soldered onto the board including the ram and the HDD, so unless you are a tier 3 tech, i wouldnt mess with it.

 

 

please see the other thread as we are discussing the speeds as you have described.

 

the link is

 

/discussions/board/message?board.id=accessories&thread.id=15596

 

we are trying different product to make it better.  your laptop is slow, not because of the hd, but the ram usage is probably high.

 

use the gadget to show you what your ram and cpu usage is and i am sure you will find that the ram usage is probably 70-95% used....as it is limited to only 1gb.

 

we discuss options, which are working, to work with this at the thread i posted above.

 

 

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Sage
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

Is there a detailed tutorial (maybe with pictures) how to open it? I'd really like to try that myself.
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ceroberts75
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

it is too new.  and i do not think that this portal would be the place to post it in as i would not post how to fix any e/n device either.

 

 

i can say that you will need to pop the black bezel off the unitaround the kb and then the kb comes off....but again, unless you are a tier 3 tech, everything is soldered on the board and you just risk damaging your booklet.

 

 

please use the other thread listed above to help prevent too many threads for the same information.  this makes a search easier to use.

 

 

 

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ceroberts75
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??


definaately use a class 10 card.   works well.
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Counsellor
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

Thanks so far!

 

Without beeing a specialist, I think RAM-usage ist ONE part of the problem. And I knew that the RAM is soldered to the board.

 

But on the other hand I am quit sure a good SSD (like an Intel oder Samsung) would heavily speed up the little machine. And I didn't know that it's possible to solder a HDD (which is a standard Toshiba Model) to the board. So, if this ist true (I still find no way to open it because I am afraid to pop up the plastic bezel), this will be the end of my efforts ... I will use it and wait for the next generation with at least 2 GB RAM, a SSD and maybe ION. ;o)

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ceroberts75
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

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if you are in the USA, then go to a frys electronics and pick up a 16gb class 10 sdhc card for $40.

 

format it to exFAT

 

then use it for readyboost.  you will notice a difference.  very little at first, but after a few days and it caching your whereabouts, it makes the unit run much smoother.

 

 

as for the next generation...i am not in the habit of constantly forking over hundreds of $$$ for the next upgrade, especially since this one required a 2 year contract!  i hope they will allow us to mail them in to be upgraded by thier techs!

 

but what they will probably do is not upgrade them, rather change out the mother board and replace the entire part.  i would pay for that.

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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

If the HD is soldered down, which I find hard to believe without anyone providing a picture, how strong can the bond be?  Is it a custom HD shell?  Since you seem to know for sure, please provide specifics on how the HD is bonded to the motherboard.

 

Also, is it 1.8" or 2.5"?  ZIF or micro SATA connector, or something else?  If it's a matter of popping the drive off a few points of *structural* solder, then I'd be willing to dump down another $300 for an X18-m.

 

Joseph

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Sage
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

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Can't imagine that it's really soldered to the MB either. If it is, then maybe a couple of small points. I'm not even sure about the RAM. The RAM module could be upgraded to a 800 MHz DDR2 one as well. The chipset doesn't support more than 1 GB and I think doesn't support DDR3. The keyboard has to be removable as there's no other way to get in.

 

Who tries it first? :smileyhappy:

 

EDIT: It's a 1.8" 

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ceroberts75
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

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we did it in a best buy with the geek squad!  :smileywink:

 

 

soldered!  :smileysad:

 

i personally do not have the soldering skills to even mess with it!  :smileyindifferent:

 

no fan, and there is a heat-sync on the inderside of the D-E-F-R button area above the processor.

 

 

this unit was really a good quality build for the casing!

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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

OK - again, how about something more than, "soldered."  For example, "it was bathed in solder and I couldn't even tell it was a drive until someone told me," or, "it was soldered all the way around the edges," or, well, ANYTHING since you actually saw it.  Please provide some *detail* on what you saw.

 

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ceroberts75
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

lol...funny.  :smileyvery-happy:

 

 

how about,

 

 

it was firmly attached by its little feed in a bed of solder that held on soooo tightly that it could not do anything but take a big breath, hoping that it would not drown!  :smileywink:

 

 

 

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ceroberts75
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

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sorry, it just looks like a standard soldered chip.  not sure what else to describe.  :smileyindifferent:

 

 

i tried to edit my post above, but while on the phone, it was too late to edit it.

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myroslav
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

My Booklet is still on its way together with Intel X18-M 80Gb SSD that I expect to stuff there instead of 1.8" 4200rpm Toshiba HDD. Thus instructions how to open the case with small to none damage would be welcome.

 

Does one have photos? The photos of HDD (and RAM) "soldered" to motherboard would be of most interest.

 

I was trying to find any references to what model of HDD is there, and had little luck. The 5mm height and 1.8" form factor match the Intel's SSDSA1MH080G1GN.

 

BTW, I've started Nokia Booklet FriendFeed group and will post stuff I find interesting there. Those interested are welcome at http://friendfeed.com/nokia-booklet

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ceroberts75
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

i wish i did take pix.

 

when i got there, the geek squad guy had the bezel off and the kb was just coming off and there was a quick "peek" to only notice that it really was just a 1 piece part and then it went back together.

 

 

i may need to go back over there and see if i can get him to take it apart again.

 

 

if so, i will have pictures in hand this time.  unfortuanately, this form has errors every time i try to add an attachment.

 

 

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myroslav
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

No need to do attachments :smileyhappy: Upload somewhere and insert as image in the post or just provide URL. That should work :smileyhappy:
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

OK, now I *really* don't believe the drive is soldered down.  Drives don't look like chips, and they are MUCH bigger.  Drives don't have a thousand legs sticking out, so if it looked like a chip it cannot be a drive.  Did the Best Buy guy say it was the drive, in which case I think he's got ZERO technical ability, and only aspires to have some?  Or, is your description of it being a chip just as imprecise as your earlier repeating of simply "soldered" despite being asked for details?

 

Your description also doesn't jive with someone else saying that it is a 1.8" drive.  Drives have no solder points UNLESS they drew lines directly from the SATA contacts to the motherboard.  But in that case, all the solder would be concentrated in a small area, which does not qualify as the drive being "soldered down." Was the solder concentrated in one area of the short end of the "chip"?  If so, then perhaps you DID see a drive.  Please clarify.

 

So, does anyone have more than 2 seconds intimacy with the innards of this netbook?  Perhaps the drive is mounted on the OTHER side?

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ceroberts75
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

well, there is definately one solution that i can think of, that will most assuridly possibly prove me wrong regarding the drive from a quick peek, that is to open your own booklet 3g and get over it rather then try to argue with it here.

 

it doesnt matter to me wether or not the drive, which was not my focus in looking directly at, as it was the RAM when i saw it briefly, so in a quick look, it looked like all was soldered.

 

now, to be quick and clear regarding this, should you have any further doubts, it may be quicker for you to open your own booklet 3g, then me going back to a bestbuy where i may be able to get them to open the unit again, but definately is not going to happen during this time because of all the shopping, and i will be out of town for the next 1.5 weeks.

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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

Alas, if I had one this debate would have been resolved already!  I'm only going to buy one IF I can change out the drive (with an x18-m is my current thinking).  I would really like to hear from myroslav, who said he's got both the Booklet and an X18-m on their way.  That is the exact configuration I'm looking to assemble.
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myroslav
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Re: Open or dissect the Booklet 3G ??

The Nokia Booklet 3G is not upgradable unit. The only replacable part is battery that is clearly shown on many photos, including Nokia website. The most vulnerable (and heavy) unit in Booklet, is harddrive and Nokia design was to use the slower HDD that can withstand 4,900 m/s² (500G) per 2ms. Having accelerometer drivers installed (the default setup) the risk of javing HDD heads out of parking area is minimal. Thus making the HDD soldered is practical from the point of reducing support inqueries due to electrical malfunction of connectors.

 

But as I've pointed out in separate thread,the Toshiba MK1235GSL is standard 1.8" drive with standard sata connectors that match ones of Intel X18-M. The metrics (dimentions) of the drives match (if you choose 80Gb Intel X18-M, they both are 5mm high). The replacement of Toshiba HDD with Intel SSD should be quite simple. I'll try to film the process if I have a chance to do that.

 

My Booklet order is 13 days in "backordered" status on BestBuy already and still not shipped. Thus I'll get my hands on it not sooner then 14th of December :smileysad:

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