[BBorges]

Hi guys,

From reading the forums, it seems like a lot of the Lumia folks are somehow new to Nokia, which is great for the company.

As a long time Nokia user and a big fan of the E-Series (6682, E51, E71 and currently using the E6). I am very happy with the E6 phone (awesome business phone) BUT the 3G network speed a lot of times is very limiting, so I started to consider upgrading my phone, and the current option is the Lumia series.

I was curious about feedback from E-Series users who jumped on the Lumia series: any feedback on the WP8 compared to the Symbian?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

BB

[ceroberts75]

there are many advantages as there are disadvantages.

the best part is that you can still stay with the nokia hardware which, imo, is superior.

symbian, while very versitle many software options (now called apps) and a mature OS, just has not evolved enough to keep up at this time with the main 3 OS's. IMO, is is not because of what it can do, becuase IMO symbian is still superior in many respects, but the eye candy and user interface, even on belle is not to where the wp8 devices are.

once you have a wp8 device, either a 920, 820,822, 810 here in the US, you will notice right away how FAST and SMOOTH the UI is in comparison!

the email client, while simplified with the options, is very smooth and in my experience has not locked up or slowed down one time...and that is with 3 IMAP, 2 exchange and 1 pop running.

having many nokia devices starting back from the 90's with a 2160, thorugh the communicator series with s80, then s90, then s80 again, then through s60 (v1, v2, v3) and then ^3 and belle....i think that after a few days, maybe a week, if you are looking at the positives over any drawbacks, you will most likely stick on the lumia device.

to date....THE biggest issue i have is with swype....it isnt there yet. not even an option. but the text offers are really good.

hope that helps.

[adrianhughes]

I second what Ceroberts has said. While Symbian is a very solid platform and choice, it has not managed to keep pace with today's trends. That being said, it has served my needs very well over the years, and even today when bringing the N8 out today to play with it, it is a nice phone with Belle Refresh and has done everything very stable and reliably that I've asked of it in the time I've owned it . I admit I do miss it sometimes.

If you're a speed demon looking for LTE speeds or what-not, I am sure you will be happy with the 920. There are a bunch of here with the 920's , and we've all enjoyed how fast and fluid and reliable the phone is. It is definitely a step up from Symbian, you appreciate how fast and beautiful transitions and getting everyday tasks done really is.

Music and video playback is great, email is great and easy to use and reliable, the whole device is pretty to look at. I have not tired of the animations and eye candy yet, I doubt I will to be honest. I would suggest getting the 920, and having the E6 as a backup or second phone. My N8 is my backup to my 920, and they're both great to have around, it's definitely a purchase that you won't regret with the 920

[paulheu]

Seeing how Nokia has been involved with how Windows Phone is developing and will develop I am pretty sure Symbian would have gone pretty much the same route as the one Windows Phone is going now development wise.

It is my opinion that Nokia choose to go with Windows Phone because it turned out that Symbian had become way too much of a 'bolt on the next feature' instead of a lean and mean OS. It would have required a complete rewrite from scratch and Meego would have taken about as long to get to the same level of maturity as where Windows Phone was and is at much, much more cost to Nokia. Money which simply was not there at the time. The choice to go with WP may be 'controversial' but in a few years it will turn out to have been the only viable and correct choice I am sure.

The whole reason Elop came in and former management had to go (IMO) was that they choose to go at it alone and basically forced development to keep trying to make the available options work. Symbian, while good at its core and while it lasted was really doomed and would not be able to keep up. Now that we are starting to see what Nokia is bringing to the WP table I think the king of yesteryear just might get back up and rule once more in the years to come.

[BBorges]

Roberts,

You are correct regarding the hardware, I went to the AT&T store yesterday to check out these phones (first step taken!), and they only had the Lumia 900 on stock - apparently the 920 is on back order? - and it is indeed a very solid hardware!

Glad to hear the good feedback on the email client. I currently have (1) Exchange and (1) Gmail running on the E6, and it works fine, but I can't add another Exchange account.

Thanks again for the feedback,

BB

[BBorges]

Okay, went to a AT&T store yesterday and after playing with a new Lumia 900 on few comments / questions:

- Solid, but bulkier than the E6. The E6 definitely has that easy-to-carry feel to it.

- I am used to the physical keyboard, it feels great typing on the E6, but I guess it is a matter of time to get used to it.

- Fast 4G! Nice and snappy!

- Where is the Ovi Maps?! This is a big issue, I could only see (find) something called "AT&T Navigator" and "Bing Maps". It seems to me like AT&T is pushing the add-on Navigator so they can actually charge for the subscription.

Could someone confirm that even if not installed on the AT&T handsets, that I could upload the Nokia Ovi Maps and all the Ovi Package and NOT have to use the AT&T programs?

Or even better, could I simply "format" the entire phone and have it back to original Nokia software and settings? I hate all this junk AT&T puts on their phone.

Thanks again,

BB

[cjlim]

There is a huge change from symbian to WP. Some good and others not so good. Mostly it just takes a bit of getting used to. A year after my first Lumia move, I still have a foot in every camp. Phones on my bedside table are an N8, N9, Lumia 800, Lumia920 and 2 androids. What a mixed bunch and amazingly I don't have any problems switchin from one to the next on a daily basis. Too me, they are all different but no less or more functional than the next. The one stand out star among the crowd is the Lumia 920. It just has that little something lacking in the rest. Definitely best and slickest UI and a step forward. The way of things to come and the future of mobile devices.

And you wont have problems with exchange accounts. I have 4 on mine.

[Ztuka]

I think tou should buy the upcoming Lumia 620 if price matters. If price dont matter gp for 920 which is above Lumia 900 in every aspect. The screen is amazing on Lumia 920, simply just crazy excellent...

Check out the phones here:

http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/?page=1&filter1=all

[BBorges]

Ztuka,

Are you sure about the Lumia 900 and 4G? The salesperson had emphasized that it supported 4G and it seemed pretty fast when I tried out Youtube. Well, I would go with the 920 anyways, 4G would be a priority.


And regarding the AT&T Navigator, any way of removing any AT&T software and having the phone based on original Nokia software (Maps and Drive) ?


Thanks

BB

[ceroberts75]

unfortunately, rerformating the device will put all the ATT stuff back on it.  it is part of the default rom.

but you can delete it off the device and manually download:

nokia maps

photobeamer

smart shoot

cenemagraph

trasfer my data

yousendit

creative studio

app highlights

panorama

nokia music

nokia maps

nokia city lens

nokia trailers

[BBorges]

Very good news Robert,

Please confirm that I can use Nokia GPS (offline, online, and all different modes they offer) without having to subscribe to any AT&T Navigator plan.

This is definitely a big plus. Currently I have an unlocked (non AT&T) E6 and the Ovi Maps / Drive is simply the best thing and the fact that I upload maps office and use them at any time is great!

I would be purchasing the Lumia 920 thru AT&T, so I dont want to be locked to their software.

Thanks again, very clarifying!

[paulheu]

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BBorges wrote:

Could someone confirm that even if not installed on the AT&T handsets, that I could upload the Nokia Ovi Maps and all the Ovi Package and NOT have to use the AT&T programs?

Or even better, could I simply "format" the entire phone and have it back to original Nokia software and settings? I hate all this junk AT&T puts on their phone.

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Nokia has Nokia Maps and Nokia Drive available for Windows Phone. Because it was written from scratch and basically it is about a year since the first version was released it is not as mature as the Symbian version but it is under constant development and catching up fast. Nokia Maps technology is largely integral to Windows Phone 8.

Removing apps is as simple as press and hold the app, hen choose delete from the pop up menu on WIndows Phone in the app list. You can also choose to not have the App's live tile on the start page,but still have it available in the applist.

[BBorges]

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paulheu wrote:

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Nokia has Nokia Maps and Nokia Drive available for Windows Phone. Because it was written from scratch and basically it is about a year since the first version was released it is not as mature as the Symbian version but it is under constant development and catching up fast. Nokia Maps technology is largely integral to Windows Phone 8.

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Paul,

Maybe you are referring exclusively to unlocked sets? I suggest this because a new Lumia unit purchased thru AT&T does not seem to have ANY of the Nokia software.

I understand the Nokia Lumia unlocked has all these features, the question is basically if I would be able to install the same Nokia Freebies on my AT&T set - and simply uninstall any AT&T junk and not pay for their extra GPS subscription.

Thanks!

[paulheu]

All Nokia exclusive apps are available for download if not pre-installed. You will find them in Nokia Collection in the Microsoft store when accessed on the device.