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Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

Counsellor
Parbeck
Posts: 35
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Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

I've had my Lumia for about 3 weeks and am now getting fairly used to it having moved from a Nokia X6. I bought the phone SIM-free for £400 from Phones for U and got a replacement mini SIM for free from O2 so that I could continue with my existing contract with them. They made the transition hassle free. I bought a Nokia branded leather case from Carphone Warehouse for £20 and a DC-6 (?) car charger for £4 from Amazon. I'm delighted with these accessories.

The Lumia 800 is to my mind a beautiful phone and lives up to the physical form standards I have come to expect from Nokia. It sits in the hand easily and the function controls come easily to hand. The body is smooth and the touch screen absolutely superb. I am a light user - I turn the WiFi on as and when I need it but leave the Bluetooth on pretty much permanently since I make a lot of hands free calls in my Fiesta Titanium. I have no data allowance so have to buy data as I use it at a fairly high price. For this reason the data is turned off pretty much permanently.

The battery issue mentioned so often hasn't been an issue for me. I charged the phone 1 hour ago and it currently predicts 2 days and 5 hours of battery life left. Last evening I surfed the web for 2 hours using WiFi here in Germany (I'm on holiday!) and the battery still had 47% of it's charge left.

I really do hope that those of you who are currently suffering with battery life find improvements when the new software update is released in January so that your frustration abates and you can start to enjoy your investment.

I have compared the battery life of my son-in-laws iPhone here in Germany and I'd say my Lumia is knocking spots off it.

I'm not at all sure which parts of the software and features come from Nokia and which come with the Windows OS. In general I find the phone easy to use now I'm used to it - but it's taken a while and some effort and patience on my part. I'd say that it's now easier to find my way around the features than my X6 with some notable exceptions.

1. The Drive function is an ENORMOUS step backwards and I'm hoping it will be updated in the very near future. The X6 navigation system was truly free to the end user. I downloaded maps before driving across Europe and had no further costs. I could set up favourite routes well in advance of the journey with route points to suit my needs. The system was totally reliable and relatively easy to use. I've downloaded the European maps I need to the Lumia but frankly am hesitant to use them because of the need to keep a data link to the network. Here in Europe I have to pay for roaming data at £3 per MB. My first question - how much data traffic is needed to use Drive if maps have already been downloaded to the Lumia?

2. The X6 keeps a log of calls and data usage. Where do I find a log of calls, texts and data usage on the Alumina?

3. When I used the media player or radio on the X6 I could exit the application when I'd finished using it. How do I exit the radio and media player on my Lumia? With the radio I have been using pause then the 'back' button. If I don't use pause but use the back button the radio keeps playing so if I DO use the pause followed by the back button has the radio shut down or is it running in the background? Ditto all of that for the media player!

 

Thank you for reading all of this. I think that Nokia are on to a winner with the Lumia if they can get what I hope are the obvious teething troubles sorted.

If anyone out there can answer my questions I'd be very appreciative!

 

Colin

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r2504
Posts: 80

Re: Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

Funny that you only found 3 issues so far... if you're a true Symbian user (or even used to 10 year old Nokia phones) you'll soon find 100 things that Windows Phone lacks !  During my investigation in buying it I focused on the more advanced stuff, but now I'm really disappointed that Nokia committed itself to such a poor OS :smileymad:

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TheBigM
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Re: Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

1. I believe Nokia have already said they will be updating Drive. They were of course to make sure it was there whilst they got a phone out the door. Expect lots of things to be coming from Nokia in 2012.
2. I believe this doesn't exist on the Windows Phones. I would recommend you change over to Giffgaff. They are sister company of O2 (both networks are owned by Telefonica of Spain). On giffgaff you can get cheap prices, unlimited data and the same coverage as on O2. http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/thebigm72
3. You don't need to worry about exiting the media player. Windows Phone has a specialised version of multitasking built-in meaning if you are not playing any songs and you are not in the media player, it won't really be affecting your battery life or system resources.
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Counsellor
Parbeck
Posts: 35

Re: Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

Thank you TheBigM for your quick and helpful reply. Last night I used the radio then paused and used the 'back' button. When I touched the volume button to check my alarm volume the radio controls showed briefly as a drop down window so must have been sitting there waiting to be used. When I woke up this morning the drop down window didn't appear so I now understand the point you made about Windows shutting down dormant programmes. This evening I'll try the same procedure with the media player.

I'm looking forward to the Drive update! Does anyone know how long we'll be waiting?

I have some questions about Giffgaff but I'm not sure if it's OK to ask them on this forum. Can I post on the Giffgaff forum before buying in to the service?

 

Thanks once again.

Colin

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Counsellor
Parbeck
Posts: 35

Re: Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

 Last night I used the media player then paused and used the 'back' button. The media player controls showed as a window on the lock screen so must have been sitting there waiting to be used. When I woke up this morning the media player controls didn't appear on the lock screen so Windows must have shut down the media player programme whilst it was dormant.

Many thanks TheBigM for your helpful reply.

 

Colin

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mayafab
Posts: 45

Re: Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

Colin,

 

since you seem to be happy with the battery, pls can you post the various versions in "Settings"/"about" screen (press "more information" button to open further), especially:

 

OS Version

Firmware revision number

hadware revision number

 

tks in advance.

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Counsellor
Parbeck
Posts: 35

Re: Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

Hi mayafab,

 

I continue to be delighted with my Lumia - especially since Ken provided extra info enabling me to switch between apps and therefore use SatNav without downloading data once the route is established (please see my post entitled "Nokia Drive Data Usage" now moved by the moderator to "Maps, Navigation and GPS").

 

My Lumia has the following installed:-

 

OS Version                           7.10.7740.16

Firmware revision number    1600.2475.7720.11414

Hardware revision number    112.1402.2.3

 

I think I updated the phone when I first got it and installed Zune - that would be about 4th December.

I have deliberately not installed the latest updates since I am happy with what I have and nervous about sharing the issues others have reported after updating. I plan to wait and let things settle down and update some time early next year - and definitely once the hoped-for Drive improvements are available.

 

For your information I charged the phone 3 hours ago and it showed 100% Remaining battery life when unplugged from the Nokia car charger. Since then the following have been OFF:-

 

1. Bluetooth

2. WiFi

3. Location

4. Data connection

5. Flight mode

 

I have checked text messages but otherwise not used the phone since the charge. The Battery Saver now indicates Remaining battery life 95%, Estimated time remaining 3 days 9 hours.

As you can imagine, I'm a light user and rarely use apps (I've downloaded none and removed several of those installed on the Lumia as purchased). My impression is that things are improving although I'm on holiday in eastern Germany and haven't used the phone much. The software that predicts time remaining etc may be using this fact. It will be interesting to see what happens when I return to the UK next week.

 

I hope this helps you and others to eventually understand what is causing the battery problems some are experiencing and thus derive the sort of satisfaction I'm getting from my investment in a Lumia.

 

Colin

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Counsellor
Parbeck
Posts: 35

Re: Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

Hi mayafab,

 

Just thought I'd update the situation on my Lumia as of this morning.

 

Since the previous post my Lumia has been used only to set and turn off an alarm and check a couple of received text messages. The Battery Saver now indicates Remaining battery life 87%, Estimated time remaining 3 days 2 hours. Time since last charge 16 hours.

I feel I left out some information from yesterday's posting which may or may not be relevant :-

 

6. Theme - Nokia Blue, Dark Background

7. 3G - ON

8. Brightness - Automatic

9. Find My Phone - both options unchecked

10. Feedback - OFF

11. Lock and Wallpaper - Show artist when playing music - OFF, Screen timeout after 1 minute

12. I only have 6 tiles - Messaging, People, Settings, Phone (currently O2.de, usually O2 UK), Nokia Drive, Nokia Maps.

13. A wonderful photo of my granddaughter resides on the lock screen!

 

I remember uninstalling Apps Highlights (or something similar), Trip Advisor, Ministry of Sound. There may have been others!

 

Hope this helps,

 

Colin

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AlbaNZ
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Re: Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

Could not agree with you more... Nokia made a HUGE booboo choosing WP7.
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Counsellor
Parbeck
Posts: 35

Re: Lumia 800 - The Good, The Bad And The Beautiful

I'm afraid AlbaNZ that you may have misunderstood my post.

In fact I am DELIGHTED with my Nokia 800 with Windows phone. It's the best phone I've ever had!



It took a little while to make the transition from an earlier Nokia phone but I now find it easier to use and it does most of the things that I want a portable device to do - and it generally does them very well indeed.

I'm aware of the problems that some are experiencing but I believe that once these initial teething problems are resolved (and I firmly believe they are just that) Nokia are on to a winner.

Many of my students have iPhones but now they have seen my Lumia in action several have said they will make the transition to a Lumia when their next upgrade is available. They say the iPhone isn't exactly without problems and many are NOT pleased with the iPhone battery life.

All these devices are battery driven and if any battery driven device is used for longer periods for power hungry applications one shouldn't expect to be up and running indefinitely. I plug my laptop into a mains supply if I want to surf for hours.



I have no financial interest or gain in saying I AM DELIGHTED WITH MY NOKIA 800.

 

Colin

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