@xumix Have you tried the experiment? Spotify is free to download and use for 48-hours without any credit card information. Please don't claim it's unreal until seeing for yourself.
@xumix I would tend to agree with your second point; there is something wrong with the output sent to the audio subsystem (pipes), because Spotify handles this perfectly. This fact is partially good news for us since there are no hardware problems nor necessarily software bugs within the OS itself... why Zune gets the analog output wrong is beyond me though. Anti-piracy feature perhaps?
@treysparker Strange, but I've noticed there is an inconsistency also. Sometimes it works perfectly, other times not. This is a major issue. Could you please try the test one more time but this time reboot the phone and load spotify straight away before Zune... they seem somehow not to play nice with each other.
My Lumia 800 with Sennheiser IE 4 sounds very similar to my ancient Nokia N-Gage QD with basic mono headset.
Hardware version: 112.1402.2.4, software: 1600.2479.7740.11451. I hope I can return it back.
16-01-2012 18:57 - edited 16-01-2012 19:36
@Tonkerdog Thanks for trying the experiment, glad it worked for you and that I'm not the only one with which this works. You might not want to be a Spotify subscriber, but the good news is that if Spotify can get it right then why can't Microsoft or another third-party application for that matter? Unbelievable that the default Nokia music player was not tested properly in this regard. At least we know the phone is capable...
@Tonkerdog wrote: "Not quite as much as I want but if Zune was 35% of what I want Spotify gives me 95%."
The output on Spotify is quite liveable. Agreed, the bass is still slightly light but at least it's there this time (enabling proper-use of EQ on a HIFI unit if desired). Overall@ I find l the sound-stage is nicely defined though and a certain amount of 'air' is not unwanted.
16-01-2012 21:43 - edited 16-01-2012 21:51
I would really like to know how widespread this is. I was just about t pre-order one of these (Norway - avail. 1 feb.) But i cannot risk getting a device that I'm unable to use as a music player. It would be extremely helpful if Nokia commented on this. Is it a device fault? Is EVERYONE experiencing this (just not bothered)? Can it be fixed, and WILL it be fixed?
If they continue to keep quiet about this I'd go for a Samsung or HTC device. No way I'm getting a phone that's unable to play below 60hz. Ridiculous!
There's certainly some sound issues. There is notable noise interference when skipping tracks on mine, but during the track it seems to be fine.
Sound quality is ok certainly not 'disastorous' but not an Mp3 replacer for me as it is notablly thinner on the bass and is harsher sounding overall than my Zune HD (which by the way has excellent sound quality second only to a Cowon and better than an iPod).
I've tested with the following headphones:
Sennheiser HD 25-1 II
Audio Technica ATH-AD700
and through AudioEngine 2 computer speakers.
17-01-2012 13:52 - edited 17-01-2012 13:53
@Overmann wrote: "Is EVERYONE experiencing this (just not bothered)?"
Most people are not audiophiles and cannot really tell the difference until demonstrated to them. Perhaps Nokia is bargaining on this by remaining silent so as not to compound the matter; you don't know what you are missing until shown better. There is also the placebo affect; people simply believe it has good sound quality because they are holding a relatively expensive piece of equipment therefore everything has to be the best, right?
Spotify is working for me, but it’s not always consistent and even this application crashes randomly. I have to say, it’s very disappointing that this phone has so many audio issues (points noted @tannjew). I purchased it specifically because I was keen to utilize my Spotify prescription better.
A slight side-topic and not connected with Nokia in this instance; it’s also frustrating that the phone does not have sound profiles. It’s too basic for my liking to have one global volume control. My Symbian used to remember different settings and would prompt when inserting a cable into the 3.5mm phono jack. That way my headphones would not blast me at line-level. Perhaps even worse; turning the headphones down quite a lot just to relax, then unplugging them will leave the phone’s ringer volume practically muted. Silly behaviour really for what should be ‘smart’.
I recently picked up my Lumia 800 from repairs. According to the papers, all they did was reflash firmware.
It did wonders to audio quality, the sound is beautiful, with tight bass and great sound stage.
The firmware numbers are the same.
So they either secretely replaced something (which I find somewhat hard to believe) or reflashing caused some low level drivers to initialize properly.
Of course, there's no way to find out officially. Or is there? I have no idea whether this can be done at home. Regular updates via Zune certainly didn't help.
It has absolutely nothing to do with Zune as a player or the jack for sure.
I've noticed that the sound is less likely to sound harsh and devoid of bass the longer I use the phone. Does it have a 'breaking-in' period or something?
WhiteAlien wrote:[...] So it turns out that higher resistance earphones gives better sound quality. This also explains why when nothing is plugged in it gives you the best sound quality, like bluetooth earphones. This would also give the answer why we have different opinions about sound quality. [...]
I can confirm this.