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Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

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Jacinta79
Posts: 2

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

Yes it is... It feels so much like a big step backward... I suggest Nokia has an option to go back to symbian anna which is classy and very nice

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Srikanthsd
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Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

Belle is what every fresher wants now. :smileyhappy:
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E6mobile
Posts: 2

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

Agree

 

On the Nokia E6 Belle upgrade.

 

There are some nice new features in the updated but I am really disappointed that Belle removed some of the features that are business like such as the  event window:

 

 The old event windows showed missed calls, calendar, and messages (including date and time of each event under it) and gave best feature of keeping or deleting and event.  If I did not delete the event, then the for example the missed event will remain until I action it. This is not the case now, they just despair and I have to go manually check the missed calls to attend to people. Now, the missed call are just like any other phone, it shows you once on the screen and disappears. The Calendar is also downgraded to behave in the same way. Messages are also not events. They do not list in the event windows as they did in the past. Now we just get a total unread messaged and when you click on it you just go to the inbox in a conversation format.

 

The calendar notes were by default with the an alarm option “ON.”  Now, I have to turn the alarm for each and every one and set the time. There is no default option to have all calendar events with the Alarm ON. The version prior to belle had the Alarm always on which made more sense.

 

The profile status was clear on every screen. I had to add the profile to one of the screens to see it and now I have to flip to the right screen to find it to know the status.

 

There even a lot less ringtones option in this version then the previous.

 

The home screen does not even take you home. It switches to the previous screen you were on and the menu.

 

There is not option to shrink the clock as it takes up most of the screen and leaves you with 4 icons. If add the profile alone takes to icon places now.

 

An upgrade should not take way key features and functions. This is what you have done today for the sake of the look. You have downgraded the business features of this phone and made it like and behave like any other phone. You have not added anything that makes this a wow.  Please let me know how I can go back to the old version prior to belle.

 

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Rachis79
Posts: 1

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

I upgraded my E7 to Belle on 21/2/2012. At first it was good and better than before. On 22/2/2012 my E7 suddenly turn Off itself and the worst was it cannot re-start at all. At first i thought the battery has depleted so immediately plug charger. Unfortunately it returned no respond at all. Normally the light turn on whenever at re-charge but now nothing... I wonder is this due to software or hardware? Can Nokia release an official statement on this matter. Very upset coz now need to find back my old non-smart phone...where did i put that...
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icoolguy1995
Posts: 135

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

so you do not have updated u r phone !!!!!
and belle is good u can re install it
please give me kudos if u like my post
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AUTxRemoteC
Posts: 30

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

I don't know if this has something to do with Belle or if it's normal for my phone and I didn't discovered this behavior with Anna:

 

Tonight my N8 did a restart totally on it's own. Everything (mobile data, Wifi, ...) was deactivated, phone was in battery safe mode. I only heard the startup melody and a few seconds later the notification beep for the dialogue "Do you want to disable battery safe mode". It reminds me a little bit of an old problem I had pre-Anna (/t5/Nseries-and-Symbian-Smartphones/Nokia-N8-quot-Phone-will-restart-quot-message/m-p/954903#M258461... but without a notification :smileywink:

 

Someone else discovered this?

 

PS: As my phone isn't English I don't know the exact message but I think you know what I mean.

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aranya_
Posts: 1

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

Thanks to you, Now I know how to change to the "energy saver" mode in Belle.
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twiggy
Posts: 7

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

Another thing which I miss in Belle is that I can no longer add a Bookmark on a home screen. This used to be possible, and when activated, would open the browser at that bookmark.

 

Does anyone know how to achieve that in Belle.

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Registered Member
uv12
Posts: 1

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

adding to the problems mr.joi c just discussed there are also more problems with this belle like flash videos which were playing smoothly on anna and even on symbian^3 it stopped playing, when i got a call or called sum1 a good background home screen showed on previous version but now its ugly black display comes , apps available for previous version are all gone and very less apps are remaining for my c 7 , there was a game available though boring but now it has only angry birds which is only playable wiith another nfc device. theme effect has completely out bursted only thing changing themes does a bit of change on look of apps . I dont understand why nokia tries such experiments which are a comlete failure even when i called customer care they told that yes there are some issue with belle nd we are working on it i dont understand why nokia released an update if it was still under development.


Joi_C wrote:

Carman58 wrote:

The whole Belle experience is vastly improved from Anna, more versatile , quicker, modern, feature filled and functional, try searching the user guide on the phone, spend some time exploring it, you may find you're being over critical, The update is a MAJOR software change, not a slight update, it's like getting a brand new phone, spend a couple of days tinkering and you may turn out to really like it

 

I cannot for the life of me recognise the Belle improvements.

  • Experience is vastly improved=> can you name some of the improvements?
  • more versatile: examples?
  • quicker=> No noticable difference as far as I can tell.
  • modern=> you mean ugly
  • feature filled=> What features? I only miss features I had with Anna
                                      (eye candy isn't a feature in my opinion)
  • functional=> How is removing features functional?

 

My experience:

  • Widgets are bigger and clunky and cannot be configured. I have tried everything, but 
          I cannot make my homescreens look as nice and neat as I had them with Anna.  
         Moreover, I need MORE homescreens for the same info.
  • The highly functional date/clock/profile widget I enjoyed in Anna is no longer available.
          Now all I get is a BIG ugly clock and an ugly grey profile widget that does not show self-
          created profiles (I created an Outdoor profile, because the Anna standard one is no 
          longer there!)
  • Ugly text under the shortcut icons that cannot be removed (a choice would have been
          nice)
  • Widget online/offline toggle is no longer available.
  • I can only access 'Open applications' by long pressing the menu button. I liked the
         menu option better. I do not want to wear out my menu button or have the bottom of my
         phone drop off. I love my N8 and do not want to lose it anytime soon. Forcing me to use
         hardware buttons when there perfectly fine menu options in Anna is just plain annoying.
  • I can no longer create folders within folders. (Yes I liked that feature!)
  • I can no longer switch homescreens by clicking on the software button on the bottom
          middle of the screen. (Yes, I used that a lot)
  • I can no longer turn on battery saving by clicking on the battery. Now I have to either
          press the power button or dive into the menu.
  • I liked the notification widget much better than that eyecandy slide down notification bar.
  • I can no longer access the connectivity menu via the homescreen. I need to go to
          menu/settings/connectivity.
  • With Anna, connection settings were easier. When on the road, my 3G connection was 
         automatically selected and whenever I was within range of a known WiFi connection,
         that connection was automatically selected. With Belle I have to set the internet 
         connection to ask what connection I want. The only other option is to hardcode either
         3G or a specific WiFi network. If that selected connection is not available, the
         connection fails. So now when I access the internet I first have to select the desired
         accesspoint. How's that an improvement?

I do not have more RAM available than I had before (80MB-90MB) and my phone does not run smoother/faster than under Anna (which was just as smooth/fast on my phone, I had no complaints!). And yes my phone was empty when I upgraded. Before I upgraded I synchronised my contacts/messages/photo's and uninstalled all apps I had installed and then performed a soft reset. The phone was empty, like I just got it from the store. I currently do not use a microSD and install all apps on the mass storage (not on C:smileyhappy:.

 

I am the kind of person that buys and uses the phone that I like and that gives me the functionality that I need. I do not feel any need to impress my friends. If they don't like my phone, tough! I am the one using it, so I am the only one who has to like it. All this added Eye Candy is therefore useless to me. Couldn't they just have added the eye candy without removing the handy Anna features? Then everybody would have been happy.

 

Someone please tell me what it is that I am, judging by your comments, obviously missing!!! Let me know what I have overlooked, because I love Nokia and I love Symbian and I want to love Belle, but I just cannot. :-(


 

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Registered Member
rieyz6677
Posts: 2

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

Last night after installied Belle to my N8,everythings gonna fine but when try to use WiFi,signal connected but can't browse the internet.try to online with simcard,its okay but when try to use wifi,error on page..**bleep** Belle.now I reset (soft reset) hoping it can solved my problem but it still same and all my data in Mass Storage gone............arghhhhhhhhhhh..pls help me..I want back Anna..

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rieyz6677
Posts: 2

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.


Joi_C wrote:

Carman58 wrote:

The whole Belle experience is vastly improved from Anna, more versatile , quicker, modern, feature filled and functional, try searching the user guide on the phone, spend some time exploring it, you may find you're being over critical, The update is a MAJOR software change, not a slight update, it's like getting a brand new phone, spend a couple of days tinkering and you may turn out to really like it

 

I cannot for the life of me recognise the Belle improvements.

  • Experience is vastly improved=> can you name some of the improvements?
  • more versatile: examples?
  • quicker=> No noticable difference as far as I can tell.
  • modern=> you mean ugly
  • feature filled=> What features? I only miss features I had with Anna
                                      (eye candy isn't a feature in my opinion)
  • functional=> How is removing features functional?

 

My experience:

  • Widgets are bigger and clunky and cannot be configured. I have tried everything, but 
          I cannot make my homescreens look as nice and neat as I had them with Anna.  
         Moreover, I need MORE homescreens for the same info.
  • The highly functional date/clock/profile widget I enjoyed in Anna is no longer available.
          Now all I get is a BIG ugly clock and an ugly grey profile widget that does not show self-
          created profiles (I created an Outdoor profile, because the Anna standard one is no 
          longer there!)
  • Ugly text under the shortcut icons that cannot be removed (a choice would have been
          nice)
  • Widget online/offline toggle is no longer available.
  • I can only access 'Open applications' by long pressing the menu button. I liked the
         menu option better. I do not want to wear out my menu button or have the bottom of my
         phone drop off. I love my N8 and do not want to lose it anytime soon. Forcing me to use
         hardware buttons when there perfectly fine menu options in Anna is just plain annoying.
  • I can no longer create folders within folders. (Yes I liked that feature!)
  • I can no longer switch homescreens by clicking on the software button on the bottom
          middle of the screen. (Yes, I used that a lot)
  • I can no longer turn on battery saving by clicking on the battery. Now I have to either
          press the power button or dive into the menu.
  • I liked the notification widget much better than that eyecandy slide down notification bar.
  • I can no longer access the connectivity menu via the homescreen. I need to go to
          menu/settings/connectivity.
  • With Anna, connection settings were easier. When on the road, my 3G connection was 
         automatically selected and whenever I was within range of a known WiFi connection,
         that connection was automatically selected. With Belle I have to set the internet 
         connection to ask what connection I want. The only other option is to hardcode either
         3G or a specific WiFi network. If that selected connection is not available, the
         connection fails. So now when I access the internet I first have to select the desired
         accesspoint. How's that an improvement?

I do not have more RAM available than I had before (80MB-90MB) and my phone does not run smoother/faster than under Anna (which was just as smooth/fast on my phone, I had no complaints!). And yes my phone was empty when I upgraded. Before I upgraded I synchronised my contacts/messages/photo's and uninstalled all apps I had installed and then performed a soft reset. The phone was empty, like I just got it from the store. I currently do not use a microSD and install all apps on the mass storage (not on C:smileyhappy:.

 

I am the kind of person that buys and uses the phone that I like and that gives me the functionality that I need. I do not feel any need to impress my friends. If they don't like my phone, tough! I am the one using it, so I am the only one who has to like it. All this added Eye Candy is therefore useless to me. Couldn't they just have added the eye candy without removing the handy Anna features? Then everybody would have been happy.

 

Someone please tell me what it is that I am, judging by your comments, obviously missing!!! Let me know what I have overlooked, because I love Nokia and I love Symbian and I want to love Belle, but I just cannot. :-(



Last night after installied Belle to my N8,everythings gonna fine but when try to use WiFi,signal connected but can't browse the internet.try to online with simcard,its okay but when try to use wifi,error on page..**bleep** Belle.now I reset (soft reset) hoping it can solved my problem but it still same and all my data in Mass Storage gone............arghhhhhhhhhhh..pls help me..I want back Anna..

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Counsellor
AUTxRemoteC
Posts: 30

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.


rieyz6677 wrote:

Last night after installied Belle to my N8,everythings gonna fine but when try to use WiFi,signal connected but can't browse the internet.try to online with simcard,its okay but when try to use wifi,error on page..**bleep** Belle.now I reset (soft reset) hoping it can solved my problem but it still same and all my data in Mass Storage gone............arghhhhhhhhhhh..pls help me..I want back Anna..


I found something in this forum that helped me but I can't find it again. Problem is: My Phone isn't English so I don't know exactly how the menu items are called:

 

Go to Menu>Settings>Connectivity>~Admin Settings (not the normal Settings)>Mobile Data Connection>Access Point --> Manually type in "internet" (without ").

 

If you now go to Menu>Settings>Connectivity>Settings>Access Points there should be at least two access points for "internet": Your Wifi and your 3G/3.5G

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Registered Member
Gulraizkhan
Posts: 1

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

Belle  is good but there is big Problem which iam facing .  My Headphones are not  working with Nokia Belle  :smileysad: :smileysad:  When I plug them in other Cell phones it works but not in my E7-00 .

 

Please Help me Out :smileysad:  I dont know what do do now :smileysad:

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New Member
paper_boy
Posts: 3

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

Just want to say I agree with everything you've posted here, particularly the calendar and F-Secure trial... a trial version, what's that all about?! I lost my 'free gift' games in the Anna upgrade and have never managed to get them back... very annoying.
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New Member
pscocoa
Posts: 4

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

Belle is fine for me - phone handles better - touch responsiveness is better - I find a lot of clutter with Anna has been repalced with simpler command structure (once you have picked it up). Definitely do not want to go back to Anna.

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New Member
shaqiulle
Posts: 9

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

So is it that Nokia is rubbing off N8 users?

 

Recently came to know that Nokia plans to release a "service pack" for Belle, with a whole new status bar (surprise, surprise!) and major changes including smaller widgets... what they did to N8 users is nothing short of sticking it up... excuse my french.

 

so N8 users, and C7 users will NOT be receiving "service pack" for Belle.. which means they have to put up with half baked OS, or, go back to a more productive OS by name "anna".

 

If Nokia had no plans to support "feature pack" for belle on N8, Why did nokia push Belle on old devices in first place?

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Counsellor
Apodida
Posts: 55

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

> About not being able to click the battery button, you do know about the notification bar, correct?

>from the top of your screen drag your finger down and it brings up the notification bar,

> you can turn off/on mobile data, wifi,bluetooth and silence right away.

 

 Could you give me some pretty explicit details on how you achieve this with Anna on an N8? I've almost worn a groove in my display trying to find EXACTLY where I have to start dragging, where I have to stop, the precise direction my finger has to travel, and the exact amount of pressure to apply, the speed at which I have to drag...

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New Member
grevasy
Posts: 1

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

I too am totally disappointed with my E6 upgrade of Belle. Visited Nokia Care but to no avail. It is become a much cheaper completely different phone.  Very upset with nokia not allowing a downgrade option.

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sealionact
Posts: 92

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.

The notification bar isn't featured an Anna. Only on Belle.

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Apodida
Posts: 55

Re: Belle - A big step backwards.


sealionact wrote:

The notification bar isn't featured an Anna. Only on Belle.


Well, in Anna, there's a bar at the top, you just cannot drag it, You can click the right-hand end, and that takes you to a submenu of relevant choices. This is the easiest way to the "Connectivity" menu. 

Just in case anyone else is wondering, like I was.

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