2012-10-06 19:10 - edited 2012-10-06 19:12
I'm finding the design of the T9/Alphanumeric keyboard in Belle FP2 (on my 808) MUCH worse than the old keyboard.
Contrary to popular belief, LOTS of people use the T9/Alphanumeric keyboard, and find it the fastest and easiest way to type. While I like FP2 generally, and appreciate the changes to the keyboard improve the experience for portrait or landscape Qwerty, for the T9/Alphanumeric, they have unfortunately made it considerably slower and more difficult, irritating and frustrating to use.
1.) The worst thing is that rather than being able to tap the bottom left number key to get alternative words for the key sequence you've pressed, you now get the list of words to choose along the top of the keyboard. This is actually MUCH slower and more frustrating than simply repeatedly tapping the bottom left key to get to the word you want.
2.) Everything you type has a space automatically put after it. For normal words this is fine, but for anything else like mixed number and letter sequences, certain punctuation (e.g. putting a dash - between things) and various other things, it's really annyoing having to manually delete the space.
3.) If you want to capitalise a word in the course of a typing a message, e.g. a person's name, you hit the shift/uppercase key and it is ignored every single time as the keyboard does immediately go uppercase, but then immediately goes lower case again before you've had the change to type the initial first letter of the name (etc).
4.) The arrow keys that only appear some of the time make the above problems even worse when you need to correct the above problems, because unless you tap on the text you've already written, the arrow keys to move the cursor don't appear, and sometimes the arrow keys then disappear again. This often then leaves you with the cursor in the wrong place and the only way to put it into the right place is to tap on EXACTLY the right place on the text you've written to position the cursor.
5.) Selecting punctuation is terrible, you can't just cycle through punctuation like you used to.
6.) The old keyboard recognised words with apostrophes, like you've, you're, I'm etc. The new one does not, and the above problems with selecting words, and positioning the cursor mean that you're left with something like "I.Ve" on the screen instead of "I've" and there are then no arrow keys to correct it.
7.) You used to be able to actually see the punctuation that made up smileys, e.g. you'd see ": )" (space between so punction remains here, but I mean just colon followed by right bracket) before it turned into the smiley graphic. Now you can't so you're not sure if you've typed the right thing, and recipients might get the wrong one because most people type these by using the characters not the graphic (trust me this happens).
8.) The way of selecting special characters and punctuation is really annoying being split across 3 screens rather than one like before - slower and more irritating.
Note that the old T9 predictive keyboard is still there in the OS, e.g. the Google Maps Symbian app running on FP2 still has the old keyboard - such a relief!
ALL the above problems can be solved quickly and easily by Nokia simply adding in an option in the Phone Language settings to use the old T9 predictive keyboard instead of the new one.
Please fix this ASAP Nokia!
(especially no excuse as FP2 is currently withdrawn for fixes - please make this one of them!)
2012-10-07 4:44
An option to turn off the new keyboards would be nice.
2012-10-08 21:33
Just to add a 9th reason:
9.) You can't type anything in predictive mode on the Alphanumeric keypad with CAPS LOCK - believe it or not, the dictionary doesn't support capitalised words, and you actually have to add them manually! And these were not unusual words I've tried adding, e.g. they were 'HUT' and 'KEY'.
Nokia need to REALLY give the option to have the old T9/Alphanumeric keyboard back, it was much quicker, easier, and more intelligent.
2012-10-09 6:51
Couldn't agree any more - i've found these small changes immensely frustrating
Thank you for your post.
2012-10-09 9:44
2012-10-09 16:46
doctran wrote:An option to turn off the new keyboards would be nice.
Fully agree, dear Nokia please!!!
2012-10-10 6:44
2012-10-10 19:25 - edited 2012-10-10 19:37
Quote Banlec
doctran wrote:An option to turn off the new keyboards would be nice.
Fully agree, dear Nokia please!!!
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This already exists!
Just not that commonly known:
Go to Settings-Phone-Language
press the input language setting, and you will have the options to choose the old keyboard style or querty. T9 off or on
Too bad Nokia does not inform about this!
//Kenneth
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2012-10-10 19:42
2012-10-11 6:54
omg !!!!
Am frm India and i updated my phone today ie 11th October 2012 on nokia 701 with belle fp2
am going crazy !!!
it was a hard task to get back to alphanumeric
and now my t9 is gone !!! **bleep** !!! i hate the new suggestion thing...i just want my old t9 back....pls pls !!
am literally begging u nokia..i cant stand the new thing..!! pls pls pls pls !!
cant even use a smiley..!! this is so so so pathetic..while everything rocks on fp2 bt this t9 option has killed the whole upgrade for me..i feel handicapped..i feel like goin back to my nokia 5800
pls release a fix...!! ![]()
2012-10-11 14:59
i AGREE!
2012-10-11 15:02
and pls. bring back the renaming settings in photos and exit button on camera. pls NOKIA.
2012-10-11 21:07
This already exists!
Just not that commonly known:
Go to Settings-Phone-Language
press the input language setting, and you will have the options to choose the old keyboard style or querty. T9 off or on
Too bad Nokia does not inform about this!
//Kenneth
edit: quote was missing
2012-10-12 6:49
2012-10-12 7:30
2012-10-12 15:43
To add a 10th reason to my list:
10.) The new T9 keyboard is slow and misses keypresses and doesn't respond fast enough, mainly in predictive mode (which is where the real power of T9 comes in). This makes it even more frustrating to use as you think you've hit a key (especially as the keys are large) and it ignores it.
Would appreciate someone from Nokia actually responding to this please, text input is pretty fundamental for phones...
2012-10-12 15:56 - edited 2012-10-12 15:58
The new T9 keypad and deficiencies of the portrait qwerty are reason enough for me to stick with FP1 on my 701.
2012-10-13 8:52
2012-10-15 23:08
2012-10-16 10:02
Count me in!!! I don't mean to be harsh but believe me you, right now I would seriously want to go back to FP1!! I liked it much better. the increase in performance is almost too hard to notice nor do I care about the slide-to-unlock feature. In my honest opinion, in the race to march ahead and save its ground, Nokia is actually forgetting the simplicities in software that Nokia was always known for in the first place!!! The FP2 has to be the worst firmware update ever
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