[bartmenkul]

Ive long been searching for a decent satnav program on the 6110 navigator. As Im sure many have found out, route66 is nothing short of **bleep** due to its sometimes jokey routing.

So this post applies to the N95, 6110 nvaigator, and E90 as all have internal recievers and run the same symbian.

I have tried on my phone -

The latest route66 (in which maps are not very new and postcodes shocking)

Copilot (shocking menu system, and you cannot edit favourites, not even giving them a name)

Navigon (good so far, but a bit simplified and no ability to add POI).

All of these work, with navigon rated the highest out of them due to better routing, postcodes and simple interface.

Currently, Im awaiting for replies from garmin, as they do support some S60 phones but none with the internal reciever.

Tomtom are a no, as Im sure many are aware they dont support the internal GPS and refuse to give any info about it.

[patc]

I've been using Route66 since the end of last year and I find it pretty good overall.

I haven't managed to get multi-waypoint routes working which is frustrating, but the point to point routing is OK.

Obviously, it doesn't understand the concept of back doubles - which is a real pain in London - however I guess if I messed around with the road speed settings it could be persuaded to do a better job. Generally speaking, I can understand why it picks the route it does.

As for postcodes, it's always been very good with those - so much so I only take the postcode and the street number when I'm going places .. which got me into a bit of trouble recently when part way through a trip, the battery went flat on the GPS receiver and I discovered I'd broken the charger. Post codes aren't a lot of help on regular maps - even if you have them with you

Have you tried using the Nokia maps app? Or doesn't that work with the 6110?

[bartmenkul]

I tried over 10 rural postcodes. Not new properties either. Over half were either not recognised or way off.

The routing is okish, but a few times had been odd. But the worst was when I had to go to Wales, it told me to go the wrong way down the motorway, and to turn off at every junction afterwards for ages - it obviously still wanted me to turn around and go the other way.

Eventually it directed me the right way, but it took ages. There is no way in hell it was a viable route, it was a completely opposite direction. And this was a motorway, so road speeds didnt matter in this instance.

I did check all options - toll roads, destination, etc etc and it was the same as the tomtom PDA that was running alongside.

Worryingly, the tomtom pda is better at postcodes, dispite having (supposedly) much older data.

The program is running as it should, smooth etc without any extra apps in the background. The lockon is good too.

Havent tried nokia maps, due to needing a subscription. Not the sort of satnav I want really.

Its a shame about route66, I like the interface the most out of all the other ones Ive tried (bar tomtom, but thats not in the running at the moment).

I dont think you notice route66's weaknesses so much in urban areas. This is often the case with many a satnav.

It just doesnt seem right that my tomtom 5 pda should outperform it in every way (apart from lockon, beleive it or not) when its over a year old, including all the data.

[patc]

Actually, someone on here did say that the PDA versions of all SatNav programs are better than the phone versions. I wouldn't know, but it sounds plausible as the PDA versions have been around longer, I guess PDAs have more powerful processors and possibly more memory and the Symbian O/S still seems a little flaky to me.

Could explain why the older version of TomTom on a PDA is so much better than a new version of Route66 on a phone: it's not comparing like with like. Have you tried TomTom on a phone?

[bartmenkul]

No, but there shouldnt be any reason for the routing to be different. In general, PDA versions are better. In fact, all the other versions are better usually. I generally expect to have a lesser version on the phone, this is true with navigon and especially copilot.

Then theres the obvious screen size and lack of touch screen.

However, as I said none of this should effect the routing, as they have the same maps and in theory the same instructions for navigation.

I havent tried route66 on anything else, but Ive no reason to thin it would be different.

[dyonas]

I feel a bit unsure if I should be posting here as I have no GPS currently and only have experience of the (unsubscribed) Nokia Maps application. It's found the postcodes I've entered fine and the directions seem spot on too but I've tried the simulation and it tends to give extra directions that could cause problems and confusion. I'm pretty sure this is purely because it's a simulation and there's no GPS linked to it, I have no way of knowing until I get my hands on a Bluetooth GPS unit for my N80 I know a subscription is not ideal but given that TomTom etc.. don't seem to offer updated maps and expect you to buy the latest version, if Nokia Maps is updated then I'd say the subscription pays for itself.

[cjlim]

I am currently using Nokia Maps with an external GPS receiver. I would not consider it to be the best but it has always gotten me to my destination using just the full postcode. I find it adequate and only use it when I am not in my own car which comes with a manufacturer sat nav. Battery life is a pain though.

I subscribed to the Pan European Maps for 3 years which ony costs 70 euros or so, which I thougt was pretty good considering it includes all map and software updates for 3 years.

[msassoon]

I have Route66 installed on my N95, but can't get it to use the internal receiver. How did you get it to work? I have had no problems, and prefer the interface to Nokia Maps, but it always seems to look for a bluetooth receiver.