You have an interesting perspective on this. Unfortunately, I think what you wrote really does match the way Nokia is thinking. The difference is, you see that as a solution, while others will see it as a problem.
I'm glad that there was a fix for the problems that Danish users were experiencing - that's great!
Yes, I realize that people from Nokia did acknowledge the list that we collected here - for better or worse, at least it organized all the issues into a single list. At the time, I think that many of us were expecting to see the problems corrected.
I accept that you are "confident we are going to see a Belle update for older devices to correct obvious errors and UI mistakes", but I would be much more impressed were this to come from Nokia as an official announcement. None of us can really speak for Nokia - that's something Nokia has to do.
Personally, I can't accept your comments about how even the Asha 300 might be more powerful than the N8 - a year ago, many of us thought the N8 was the best phone on the market, based on all the features and power. Nothing is ever perfect, but it was the closest thing to perfect that was available on the market. Then Belle came along and "crippled" it, removing features and functions. Whether the Asha 300 is "better" is an opinion you're welcome to. To me it's irrelevant - I wanted the N8 for what it could do back then, and feel the same way today. Struggles with Nokia Maps? Maybe yours does; for me, Nokia maps is the single reason I haven't given up on Nokia yet. I don't see the phone "struggling", and am extremely pleased with the way Maps works right now. (Maps is the one area where Nokia HAS continued to improve the N8.)
I don't know what you mean by this: " The N8 hardware limitations are not going to stop the programmers from adding new features to Belle, and the N8 is left behind with less features than new phones." ......I think you meant to write that you think the hardware limitations WILL prevent the developers adding new features....... but that's not the point. It's foolish to think of "new features" until the existing features are fixed, so they work once again.
The cloud?????? The place I need the N8 the most is in the middle of India, where there is no cloud, and often no connection period. The LAST thing I'm worried about is anything to do with a "cloud". Sorry, but to me, that's like worrying about the shiny outside finish on a car, while the engine is struggling with a serious overheating problem. If Nokia released a complete cloud system tomorrow, just as advanced as the others now available, it wouldn't do a thing to correct the existing list of problems.
I think one thing you wrote is VERY perceptive, very true, and exactly what the guys in the glass office are hoping for.... "so the N8 Belle users are encouraged to upgrade to a Nokia Windows phone later." There is so much to say about that.... Some people might like the future as Microsoft sees it, but a person who wanted what the N8 could do, is far more likely to move over to Android. (It's not your fault for saying this - Microsoft feels that computer users are going to switch from Windows 7 (which a huge number of people are pleased with) to Windows 8 (which computer users still using the "quaint" keyboard and mouse feel is imposible to use). The original N8, with no updates, did FAR, FAR more than the new Windows phones, despite the phone not being as powerful as an Asha device... :-) At any rate, I do think your thoughts match those of the bigshots at Nokia, and my prediction is that these ideas will drive bankrupt the whole company.
You didn't quite mean it that way, but I also agree with you that (Symbian) " is complicated even for a skilled user." That's like comparing "Microsoft Paint" to "Photoshop". One is simple, the other is powerful. To learn all the capabilities, takes effort. Dumbing down the phone so everything is simple is silly - just provide a different phone that's "dumbed down" so it's effortless to use, and ALSO provide a phone like the N8. Camera manufacturers and others do this - so can Nokia. 99.9% of the market won't care that you can mount a remote computer drive on the N8 and use it as if it were a computer, but there are people who did (and do) appreciate features like that. 99.9% of the market won't take advantage of the wonderful camera capabilities of the original N8, but there are others who very much do!
Final thought - I'm glad the following came from you, and not from Nokia:
"There is no way that Nokia is going to make things the way they were in Symbian Anna, and no way that Nokia will provide official tools to roll back from Belle to Anna or earlier. If a user need that and is absolutely committed to do so, the information can easily be found outside this forum. And don't come back here crying about a bricked phone - all remaining warranty and official support expires."
I've got to thank you for writing that. I'm more and more afraid that you might be right.
...design and sell a fantastic device that blows away the competition.
...fire all the guys who mad it possible, or ship them off to Accenture
...release an "update" that cripples the device, while making it look "pretty".
...refuse to provide a way for users to restore their phone's capability
...tell those same people that they can hack their phones if they want to fix them,at the risk of destroying them.
Thanks for posting. What you see as "a solution", I see as "the problem". I suspect we both see the writing on the walls, and I'm afraid that we might be right.
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